Peter Tessier: Jets win ugly, but win nonetheless It wasn't pretty but ugly wins count as much as pretty ones.

Buff has to share in the goat horns on the first goal. Not exactly a stellar effort on his part either.

Good teams like the Jets can play poorly but still find a way to win, but they can't afford to give up so many shots against good teams.

I honestly haven’t liked a single game yet and yet here we are at 6-2-1. Crazy.

Also, we need to play Roslovic!!!! He is a fantastic prospect that won’t develop playing under 5 min a game. I want him at Center but it’s more important he plays so if that means put him back on wing. Just play him!!!

Stop double shifting Shiefele line when they don’t deserve it. It won’t work out like it did last night very often.

Let me throw something out...

Does the 4th line and Maurice miss Armia a bit?

When I go back and look at who Armia layer with there's no real stand out in terms of minutes- he plays all over. I wonder if his depth is throwing things off and then adding in Lemieux and not Dano or Petan? Ideally I'm ready for the 4th line to be Perreault, Petan Roslovic now to see what happens.

Let me throw something out...

Does the 4th line and Maurice miss Armia a bit?

When I go back and look at who Armia layer with there's no real stand out in terms of minutes- he plays all over. I wonder if his depth is throwing things off and then adding in Lemieux and not Dano or Petan? Ideally I'm ready for the 4th line to be Perreault, Petan Roslovic now to see what happens.
- Peter.Tessier

I don’t think so, I agree I’d love to see Petan, ros and Perreault but the truth Is Lemieux has done nothing wrong and has played well, there is no reason for Maurice not to be playing them more 5v5.
Sadly the reality is at some point there will be injuries, at that time we will need Petan and Roslovic to step up and carpe diem that poop

Trouba deserves to be on the powerplay.

Jets currently sit all alone - 3rd in the league

Jets currently sit all alone - 3rd in the division

I will also add that - to me - this seemed like a typical game vs Blues

With maybe the exception of the game in St Louis earlier this year, the Blues seem to always be in our passing lanes and always have a stick on our puck carriers quickly ... good gap control (?) ... just something I've noticed about games vs Blues

They also have some players that accelerate fast as f_ck

Today @ 10:27 AM ET
I will also add that - to me - this seemed like a typical game vs Blues

one thing not typical about the Blues was the non-response to the Tanev hit. In the past if an opponents pest delivers a borderline (over the border) hit on your best player someone takes him out for coffee to talk it out... right? It's still the right thing for a team to do. As it happened that play was when the tide started to turn for the Jets.

I honestly haven’t liked a single game yet and yet here we are at 6-2-1. Crazy.

Also, we need to play Roslovic!!!! He is a fantastic prospect that won’t develop playing under 5 min a game. I want him at Center but it’s more important he plays so if that means put him back on wing. Just play him!!!

Stop double shifting Shiefele line when they don’t deserve it. It won’t work out like it did last night very often.
- Ross77

His and Lemieux's time last night got tanked by the Tanev ejection. Perreault was the obvious choice to draw in for Tanev.

I don't like the penalty he took for the hook in the blue's zone. Brilliant soccer-like play by Pieterangelo to draw it (turn into the loose stick, latch on, go down). It makes a mockery of the hooking rules.

Officiating was spotty last night

Let me throw something out...

Does the 4th line and Maurice miss Armia a bit?

When I go back and look at who Armia layer with there's no real stand out in terms of minutes- he plays all over. I wonder if his depth is throwing things off and then adding in Lemieux and not Dano or Petan? Ideally I'm ready for the 4th line to be Perreault, Petan Roslovic now to see what happens.
- Peter.Tessier

I was also thinking the same thoughts the other day about Armia. A Line of Perreault -Roslovic - and Armia is a stronger line. That may not be true in a year or two but it is the case today. Lemeiux has done well but overall Armia is both stronger along the boards and smoother with the puck. Lemieux probably has the better shot though.

As for Petan. I think we will see him go in and out of the lineup soon enough. The fourth line role doesn't really suit him though. Dano was on the ice for Philly's only goal last night. I'd take Suess or Appleton over him. Don't miss him one bit.

I will also add that - to me - this seemed like a typical game vs Blues

With maybe the exception of the game in St Louis earlier this year, the Blues seem to always be in our passing lanes and always have a stick on our puck carriers quickly ... good gap control (?) ... just something I've noticed about games vs Blues

They also have some players that accelerate fast as f_ck
- CorydonKeith

If we are complaining about wheeler not looking like wheeler I can only imagine what they are saying about Tarasenko, barley noticed him last night.

one thing not typical about the Blues was the non-response to the Tanev hit. In the past if an opponents pest delivers a borderline (over the border) hit on your best player someone takes him out for coffee to talk it out... right? It's still the right thing for a team to do. As it happened that play was when the tide started to turn for the Jets.
- 2.0

I honestly think its because although Tanev hits a lot, he does not hit hard and he flies under the radar because he doesn't intimidate anyone.

If we are complaining about wheeler not looking like wheeler I can only imagine what they are saying about Tarasenko, barley noticed him last night.
- Ross77

When you go in hockey pools that also count shots , hits, blocks, takeaways, etc. you realize the downsides of players like Tarasenko or Panarin and quite frankly a lot of other Russian players not named Ovechkin. They are mostly point getters but do little else to help the team. They often get dumped by poolies who need more all-around players around the quarter-season mark. Guys like Barkov, Trocheck, Landeskog, ROR etc are gold in those pools and any also gold on any NHL team. On the Jets Lowry and Tanev rate very high on those measures. All around players who can also get you some points.

I honestly think its because although Tanev hits a lot, he does not hit hard and he flies under the radar because he doesn't intimidate anyone.
- Ross77

I can tell you from playing a LOT of hockey that the thing that tires you out the most isn't the skating. Its rather the grinding along the boards while fighting for the puck. It takes a huge amount of energy out of you. The TLC line's biggest value is wearing the opponents top lines down. Tanev and Lowry, in particular, are a bit part of that. Armia was also a bigger loss than we think. He was so good at it. I think part of the reason the Jets tend to excel in the third period is because the TLC line, in particular, has worn the opponent down and they just don't have as much energy left in the tank as our top lines.

I was also thinking the same thoughts the other day about Armia. A Line of Perreault -Roslovic - and Armia is a stronger line. That may not be true in a year or two but it is the case today. Lemeiux has done well but overall Armia is both stronger along the boards and smoother with the puck. Lemieux probably has the better shot though.

As for Petan. I think we will see him go in and out of the lineup soon enough. The fourth line role doesn't really suit him though. Dano was on the ice for Philly's only goal last night. I'd take Suess or Appleton over him. Don't miss him one bit.
- jetsnation

Did we just agree???

I can tell you from playing a LOT of hockey that the thing that tires you out the most isn't the skating. Its rather the grinding along the boards while fighting for the puck. It takes a huge amount of energy out of you. The TLC line's biggest value is wearing the opponents top lines down. Tanev and Lowry, in particular, are a bit part of that. Armia was also a bigger loss than we think. He was so good at it. I think part of the reason the Jets tend to excel in the third period is because the TLC line, in particular, has worn the opponent down and they just don't have as much energy left in the tank as our top lines.
- jetsnation

Yep

Did we just agree???
- Peter.Tessier

On Armia....yes. I'll miss him until his fellow Finn , Vesalainen, is fully ready. Vesalainen is a better version of Armia down the road. Lemieux might be, but not sure yet on that.

I can tell you from playing a LOT of hockey that the thing that tires you out the most isn't the skating. Its rather the grinding along the boards while fighting for the puck. It takes a huge amount of energy out of you. The TLC line's biggest value is wearing the opponents top lines down. Tanev and Lowry, in particular, are a bit part of that. Armia was also a bigger loss than we think. He was so good at it. I think part of the reason the Jets tend to excel in the third period is because the TLC line, in particular, has worn the opponent down and they just don't have as much energy left in the tank as our top lines.
- jetsnation

Not disagreeing with you, but my comments were about the Tanev hit and they are true. He hits a lot but doesn’t hit hard, that’s why there was no big retaliation from the blues.

Not disagreeing with you, but my comments were about the Tanev hit and they are true. He hits a lot but doesn’t hit hard, that’s why there was no big retaliation from the blues.
- Ross77

He doesn't hit real hard although he has bulked up so he definitely is hitting harder than last year.

Who really hits super hard anymore in the NHL other than the likes of select individuals such as Buff or Parenko . The risk of hitting a guy hard and getting a penalty for boarding or roughing , or contact with the head, or god forbid the opponent turns into the boards like last night and it's a major. League is cracking down on the heavy hits , whether its open ice or whatever. Its why the smaller finesse guys like Gaudreau and Marner now have a place in the league and the NHL is a faster and possibly more entertaining sport than the old days of the trap and New Jersey winning 2-1.

I don’t think so, I agree I’d love to see Petan, ros and Perreault but the truth Is Lemieux has done nothing wrong and has played well, there is no reason for Maurice not to be playing them more 5v5.
Sadly the reality is at some point there will be injuries, at that time we will need Petan and Roslovic to step up and carpe diem that poop
- Ross77

BTW....on that 4th line subject, I imagine Veslalainen will be called up by Sunday or maybe even earlier. He'll probably need a game or so to get ready for Finland and then play both games there. That might get him to 7 or 8 games played. I'm sure he'll then be sent back down to the Moose once he gets back.

Was at the game last night. I was shaking my head after two periods. I was really shaking my head after overtime. How did we ever win that game?

After watching the 3rd period can we please continue to see Laine and Ehlers on different lines?